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In 2011 I said about the chart of the marriage of Kate and William that “And, an important note: if we see the previous eclipse chart (important for any mundane endeavor) we see that the “void of course” moon is exactly conjunct the eclipse Jupiter in pisces. My opinion is that this marriage will give an heir and probably will give it very quickly.”
Many said that, as the chart look “bad”, that maybe they didn´t have an heir.
First of all, independent of what an electional chart may show, to predict infertility for a young couple, with acess to all resources over the earth, is a very big step, and should be taken with care.
Second, and I think this is my main point, it´s not about if I am right or wrong, but if electional charts can or can´t be considered without connections to natal charts. I believe firmly that it can´t. The chart of the event is as bleak and awful as they can. If it was so black and white they should be divorced or dead by now.
See the electional chart without a natal chart is great for commentary: “oh, this and this happened, you can see in the chart”. Yes, you can see, after it happen. But this has nothing to do with electing a good moment.
The moment of birth.
At this moment, Kate is supposed to be in labor. I usually use transits to the mother´s chart to see the birth, but Kate´s chart is unavailable. But it was interesting to see that, using the original chart of the wedding (below), that the sun is just transiting the angle.
As usual with this kind of prediction, you couldn´t just say at the wedding “oh, in july 23-24 they will have a child”, but as the time of birth comes near, it is usually a good bet.
At july 25 mars will sextile the sun of the wedding, another possible indication.
Regulus, the Cor Leonis, is changing from Leo to Virgo. Fixed Stars changes their position on the ecliptic around 1 degree every 70 years or so. So, it takes around 2,000 years to change from a sign to another.
I don´t know the precision of astrological software with the ephemerides of so slow-moving bodies. But according to Janus, Regulus has already changed in 2011. Anyway, we can safely say that Regulus changes from Leo to Virgo in 2011-2012.
Of course we don´t see much discussion about it in the astrological community. With all those important things that Pluto is doing, in biquintile to quiron, who has the time to analyse an event that only happens every couple of thousand years? It is january after all, and diets have to begin.
The “discussion” that I could find is the usual crap from wanna be modern astrologers who are worried that regulus is “moving to the sign of ill-health”. Yugh. To talk about first year teenage magazine astrology…
Unfortunately I also didn´t see anything in the traditional community. . The reason here is more clear: we don´t have in our traditional sources any tools to help predict the shifting of the fixed stars. In the mundane astrology of Abu Mashar, for instance, the great cycles are determined by the Great Conjunctions, fixed stars weren´t mentioned at all. So, we only have hypothesis.
Frawley commented several years ago that when the last of the seasonal markers falls from fixed signs that it would be “the beginning of the end of days”. But before we start predicting a zombie invasion, let´s see what we can get.
Using Ptolemy´s coreography, which divided regions between the zodiac, we could predict a shift of power from Leo ruled countries to Virgo ones. Unfortunately, most of the countries “ruled” by signs are inventions of modern astrology, and we don´t even know who is the author of attributions like “Brazil=Virgo”. Dr. H, which knows traditional astrology, says that his research showed the influence of Virgo over all Latin America.
Vivian Robson (http://www.constellationsofwords.com/categories/mundaneexplan.htm) said that changes of Regulus through the terms of Leo were related to changes in the Roman Empire and Catholic Church. If this is true, we could see another big transformation in the Catholic church. I would assume that it will lost even more power.
One old technique is the transit of fixed stars through the ASC of mundane charts of cities and countries. Cities and countries which have the ASC in 0 Virgo will feel the transformative power of Virgo in the next few years. The other who had the ASC in 29 Virgo will probably feel some sense of decay, as the influence of Regulus is one of power.
The transit effect of Regulus over natal charts is probably what most people want to discuss. But the effect of the transit of a fixed star over our puny lives should be disregarded.
The matter of fact is that we will never know the answer. I am writing this in 2012. In 50 years from now I will be death and Regulus will still be in the 1st degree of Virgo, and we will still beginning to see the effects of his entrance into Virgo. Is pretty pathetic the extension of our days compared to the mundane matters.
In jyotish astrology, there are two important systems for electional astrology, based on the moon. The Nakshatras and the thitis
The nakshatras are the equivalent of the moon mansions in western astrology. They are equal in size and regular, starting at the 0º of the jyotish zodiac (despite of what many people argue, the lunar mansions and the nakshatras were never constellational, but zodiacal. Jyotish just uses their own zodiac, that happens to be sidereal).
The thithis are the division of the lunar month in 30th lunar days. Instead of using just 4 phases, they use 30th thitis. Each thithi has a different meaning for electional astrology.
Is there an equivalent of the thitis in western astrology? According to Volguine there is, he call them the “lunar houses”
But, unfortunately, Volguine is an awful reference. He only quotes his sources when they are not relevant. Every freaking useless study published in a modern astrological magazine (and not related to the topic at all, usually just some study about the effects of the moon), are properly quoted. But what one would consider his main material (moon mansions and lunar houses) is quoted as vaguely as possible as “the arabs”, “the chinese”, “the ancients”, or nothing at all. Looking closely at his book, apparently the main source of Volguine for this concept was a coumade e by that had “gave several arabic texts”. What arabic texts, what the fidelity of the source, etc, is impossible to know.
There is a quote in Bonatti that may or may not be considered to be a western thithi. After giving all 28 moon mansions, with their names (noting that Bonatti is very incoherent with the names of the mansions), he simply seems to give a whole new set of more 28 names and say that they are subordinate to the first set. Although Ben Dykes doesn’t comment much in this topic, I believe that this is because the second set is a set of 28th thitis.
But, when searching for evidence of this topic, I found in Valens an interesting commentary about the phases of the moon. Steven Birchfield hás already wrote agout it, in an article that you can download in the colun at your right, in the “Box” widget. Look for “Foundations issue nº1”.
In: “35K;36P. The Eleven Phases of the Moon and The Influence of Their Effects”, Valens says that “According to the physicists’ reasoning, there are seven phases of the moon, but we find eleven listed elsewhere”. Birchfield in his article is more worried about the “eleven phases”, I am going to focus on the seven phases and their rulers.
From the new moon, Valens says that the following planets rules the period:
Mercury until the 4th day (4 days)
Mercury until the 8th day (4 days)
Venus until the 12th day (4 days)
Sun until the 14th day (2 days)
Mars until the 21th day (7 days)
Jupiter until the 25th day (4 days)
Saturn until the 30th day (5 days)
Well, I found that this was very interesting, because as I said, I was looking for an western version of the concept of thithis. Might this be a possible equivalent? When one astrologer have a month of 30 lunar days, and wants to divide it by 7 planets, the simpler way is to give 4 days to each planet and “round up” every now and then. As the planets are obvioulsy in the chaldeic order, and assuming the errors in transmission, I would say that the following scheme of rulership is the most obvious:
Moon until the 4th day (4 days)
Mercury until the 8th day (4 days)
Venus until the 12th day (4 days)
Sun until the 16th day (4 days)
Mars until the 21th day (5 days)
Jupiter until the 25th day (4 days)
Saturn until the 30th day (5 days)
I was seeing some videos and got into total “Fantasia” mode.
So, a question to the readers: which video of Fantasia better captures the essence of each planet?
This is my list. If you have opinions about it, please, give your list on the comments. I am using both the music and the animation as guidelines
The nutcracker suite. For the fairies, not because of the mushrooms.
The sorceror´s apprentice, that appeared both in 1940 and 2000. Mickey dream of being a powerful sorcerer, it is destroyed by the uncontrollable nature of magic.
To me, the nature of mercury is best captured by Rhapsody in Blue, showing the electric rhythm of New York
Dance of the hours – yes, beauty IS in the eyes of the beholder.
Firebird suite – fire but also life it all its power
The rite of spring – the labour pains of the creation of the world.
Pompe and Circunstance with Donald Duck
but also the Pines of Rome, they both represent Grace.
Night on bald mountain: In the night of Samhaim, evil spirits are raised from their graves.
Regards to all in a beautiful day (at least where I live is shining bright)
The Dawr is a very important technique in Abu Mashar historic astrology. “Dawr” means “time” or “period”, and is a technique used in mundane astrology similar to the more known firdar. Curiosly, although the dawr would be the “mighty firdar” (one of the four scales of mundane firdar), the word “firdar” is never used for this context.
Basically, the Dawr is made of 84 periods of 360 years. Each dawr of 360 years (in analogy with a solar year) is given a planet and a sign, beginning with Saturn with Aries. The following planets and signs are in the Chaldean order and the zodiac order, for instance:
Edited: As I was writing the blog, I was reading and copying the text from Abu Mashar, so many mistakes were made. The first correction was pointed out by Steven Birchfield, that the dawr is not a creation of Abu Mashar, and is found in Umar and others authors. It was not my intention to give this impression, I was just quoting the work that I had in my hands. The second mistake, is that I understood that the first dawr would be the creation of Adam (as it seemed logic), but if you do the calculation is obvious that it can´t be so. If the 64th dawr begins in -3380, then the first dawr (first of the current cycle anyway) would be in the year -26.060. As the dawr can repeat itself, if Abu Mashar was using one of the platonic “World Year” (which can last until 360 thousand years!) then this cycle could have began anywhere and I don´t know exactly what he considered the beginning. Burnett has a footnote that says that the Flood should be at the end of dawr 80, but he doesn´t explain his calculations, but apparently he is assuming the beginning of the World Year 180,000 years ago.
“The qisma arrived from the beginning of Aries – in which it was at one of the conjunctions – at the time of one of the dawrs which we described – at the 20th degree of Pisces without <meeting> the rays of any of the planets <there>”
“If we divide those years (3950) by 360 and take each dawr as a sign, and we begin to cast out from the governing sign which belonged to the dawr at the time indicating the Flood, i.e., Cancer, the dawr in the conjunction indicating the religion arrives at gemini. If we give one of the dawrs to each planet and we begin to cast out from the planet which belongs to the dawr of the conjunction indicating the religion, the number arrives at Venus. If we cast out from the ascendant of the conjunction which was at the beginning of Aries, one degree a year, it arrives at 20 degrees of Pisces in the conjunction indicating the religion. The planet predominating over the dawr and over the lord of the ascendant, and the lord of the sign of the conjunction, is Mars (…)”
Those of us who work in our homes, in front of the computer, have a great friend and the most vicious enemy created by humanity against ourselves: the internet.
Yes, you have the world in your fingertips, but you also have the most vicious destroyer of productivity since the invention of the manager!
Besides regular work, when I go home I have to work on answering clients with horaries and solar returns, do my online course, blog, and study astrology, of course.
As the saying goes, the best way to kill your love for a subject is trying to go pro.
Of course, there is a huge deal of learning when dealing with real clients, but after a time you will wish to just lay down and watch a movie than do one more horary. As Christopher Warnock said, doing horaries for free is just not fun after a while.
Ways to keep focused while working
Yes, I know that if you want it, you could find much more thing about it on the internet. But this is my method to work with astrology from home.
1 – Change the music: If I have work to do, it is important to me to change the music. There is “work” music, “I am studying charts´” music, and “I am just surfing the internet” music.
2 – Try to work each thing at a time, from beginning to end. In the Theory of Constraints, multi tasking is one of the worst things you can do.
3 – a To-do-list can help, but remember that there are many ways to do them, and your to-do-list may be wrong. Try to do the things in the order you wrote them. Don´t skip the hard parts.
Last, if everything else fails, try some operating conditioning:
Use anything that is distracting you as a reward. For instance, if you wrote that blog entry in an hour, without distraction, then you can get your 10 minutes in facebook. If you wrote the chapter in your book of astrology, then you can get one hour of x-box kinetics.
And for a little negative reinforcement, not works better than putting a rubber band in your wrist and snapping it each time you procrastinate. Ouch!
What is the time of the horary?
Astrologers who start to answer horaries professionally usually have this doubt: do I use the time I got the horary, or the time I sit down and started answering?
I personally think both approaches work very well, since you don´t start second guessing yourself and try to see “which chart is right”.
Usually I take this approach. If I don´t have a lot of work, the horary will be casted when I sit down and finally start to work it. If I have two or more horaries in line, I will usually read the question with care and I annotate the time for future reference. I do this because when I sit down on the weekend I don´t want to have three almost identical horaries.
I think this is a good approach for those of us who have a dayjob from monday to friday but also need to make good horaries for occasional clients.
Recently I traveled to Europe: Berlim, Paris and Geneve. A very beautiful travel and very good memories to carry.
In Berlin, in the neues museum, there was this interesting object:
The picture is not good, so you can´t see that this is a hat! This one I copied from the site of the neuesmuseum:
This interesting hat, made of gold, is from the late bronze age. It was apparently used to convert a solar calendar into a lunar one.
Unfortunately, I don´t speak enough german to understand all the calculations, and not enough memory to remember the numbers, but I think 22 was one of the many numbers used. The Pleiades were also used in the calculation, which seemed very interesting for astrologers.
But, as we are in the age of internet, I could found this entry on wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berlin_Gold_Hat has some information.
A year ago, I was thinking about writing a book about electional astrology, but of course, life got on the way. Today I am glad I did. For the last few weeks, I have seen time and again that astrologers don´t care about elections or think they are simple.
One of the most obvious reasons is that, as in rectifications, You can´t be wrong in an electional! If the couple divorces, who can say we are the ones to blame? After all, they share the responsability, not the astrologer! But if they keep married, then this is “proof” that we made a good election… You can´t go wrong with these odds. If you go look on google, you find hundreds of “analysis” of the wedding of William and Kate. Most of them are extremely comic, including comments on “past lives” because of what the south node may or may not be doing. You can´t go wrong if you blame your problems on a past life! But even with traditional astrologers, we don´t have any good text book. We don´t have a Christian Astrology with real life examples. There are no important teachers which are really using traditional texts. Most are just following modern writer Robson which copied almost verbatim from Ramesey. And Ramesey is VERY far away from real traditional sources, like Sahl!
another sect of traditional astrology, emulates problems from modern authors, and are fusing horary and electional astrology as if were one. This is a typical concept of modern astrology: older sources (Gadbury, Sahl, Bonnatti) clearly say that we should use either a natal or horary chart as the “root” of any election. It is the same mentality that leads modern astrologers to use solar returns without the natal chart. Here, traditional astrologers are using the modern mentality while quoting the old sources.
Let´s use this chart as if it were an horary: sun in taurus doesn´t aspect Saturn. Venus is in detriment. Moon is void of course. Awful.
But of course, there will be a wedding. I have often seen charts that astrologers says that are horrible but lead to great success. For instance, the launches of big successes, like Titanic, you do´t see anything like exalted venus or dignified sun in trine to Jupiter. Astrologers are saying that those factors are essential, but I don´t find them in real charts.
If you have read our series of posts on Obama´s possession, we discussed the many problems of taking an event chart and treated it like an horary. As our older sources told us, connections between natal charts and the event are essential. The same goes for the tests that I made with a sample of patients from heart surgery, with the launch of movies, marriages, etc.
In none of those samples, I saw a case where the results of the electional could be easily explained without reference to a natal chart. As Sahl said “We even see certain people rejoice and drink on a bad day and on a day to be feared (namely one of many impediments) and quarrels come together and enter upon them on a good and praiseworthy day.”
Unfortunately I don´t have Kate´s natal chart, but we have William´s.
Venus in the electional chart is not only in detriment: it is opposite Mars, ruler of the 10th of his natal chart and event chart. The most logical interpretation seems to be “career and fame will damage the marriage”.
See that the “void of course” moon is now trining his natal venus.
In fact I believe the connections between natal and electional (even without´s Kate´s chart) show a much more happy image than the one being pictured by astrologers.
Using visual astrology, we can see another interesting thing in this chart: Saturn will be isolated on the skies: the marriage will be all about law and order. Specially because he will be transiting close to the stars of Spica (family) and Arcturus (royal star).
One last note: about an heir. The moon is trining the ruler of his 5th house, venus. Venus is angular in the event chart.
And, an important note: if we see the previous eclipse chart (important for any mundane endeavor) we see that the “void of course” moon is exactly conjunct the eclipse Jupiter in pisces. My opinion is that this marriage will give an heir and probably will give it very quickly.
I found this lovely picture of Mubarak watching the 2006 eclipse. Don´t dictators learn in mundane astrology 101 class in dictatorship school that presidents never should attend a solar eclipse?! For eclipses funs, it is interesting that the mars of 2006 eclipse is opposing mercury of the January 2011 eclipse (right in the MC of the eclipse)!
Although looking at eclipses is mundane charts is always fun, and the proper method in mundane astrology, there is a questioning if horary charts can provide an answer in mundane matters.
My personal answer is yes. There are several charts, from elections to political problems, that I have seen the right answer. But there are several problems.
1 – Horary is a focused practice. If you are not immediately connected with the question, exactlly why are you asking? Because of “general concern”? It is hard to interpret any horary chart were the motivation of the querent is not clear. I think that there are several layers of horary, and a person without a personal, concrete, and immediate interest in the results of the horary, will have an horary answer, yes, but it will be a poor one. Not every chart was made equal: I can do a horary for an important surgery or for a flu, but one will have important planets and parts connected with natal planets, or in angles, etc. The latter will probably have one aspect that maybe will give the timing of the flu, and that´s it.
2 – the second problem is about what to do with the multiple charts that will happen? That is not such a big problem. As long as two horary charts were made by different persons (the same person asking twice is a sure sign that this is a poor horary), asking with deep concern (and not just because they haven´t made a horary in two weeks and have their Janus itching), they will have the same results in both. But my experience show that this doesn´t mean that they will gave the answer in the same way, or with the same clarity.
So, let´s use the example of Mubarak and two horaries found on forums over the internet.
“When will Mubarak leave?”
As the querent is foreigner, Egypt is their 9th house. The ruler of egypt is the 10th from the 9th, or 6th house, ruled by Mercury. Mercury is in 29 Capricorn. After mercury change signs, it will make a sextile with Jupiter, the people. But usually a significator on the 29th degree of any sign is a important sign of changing. Mubarak will leave. The moon is not technically void, but the only aspect that she is making is to venus, and venus will change signs before the moon can complete these 8 degrees. Again a planet in the 29th degree of a sign is changing.
If we take Venus as significator of Islam, the probability of Egypt becoming an Islamic country seems slim: Venus is out from the sign ruled by Jupiter, and right into his fall. Sahel would say that no planet receives an aspect from the house of his enemies… And the aspect is from square, and Jupiter is in venus detriment!
Will the protesters suceed?
Not only the phrasing of the question is different, I feel the horary is different. According to querent, she asked the question because of “concern with the egyptian people”, as she has been involved in social activism. So, the focus of the question is not the president of egypt, but the people, felt as “our team”.
The ASC is “our team” and mercury is the egyptian protesters (not necessarily the majority of the egyptian people). What house rules their enemy? The 7th is not appropriate, as it usually shows a direct, open enemy, of more or less the same situation (as two armies). Street protesters against a president doesn´t fit the bill. We can use the 10th, but unfortunately, the 10th is also ruled by mercury. As there are no planet on the 10th, the best ruler we have is the generic moon (specially as she is the ruler of the next sign after gemini).
Protesters are in the house of the enemies of moon, check. Moon is in the house of the enemies of mercury, check. But what is the result? Moon has just separated from mars, showing the surprising lack of support that Mubarak received from the militaries.
Moon is cadent so, if it this was a “Will I loose my job”, the answer would not be favourable. Literally he is falling. The aspect of the moon is to Saturn. As Saturn doesn´t play an obvious role in the chart, we can only speculate what it means, but I would point that, as Saturn is in the 2nd house (support of “our team”), the perspective that Saturn would give Mubarak stability would not be strong.
Two questions, two charts, two different answers, same result. Although I would say that it is easier to see the right answer in one than in the other.